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 Hello everyone and welcome to CommanderCast Episode 289! We’re your weekly source for Community, Strategy, and Technology, hosted on MTGcast.com and our homesite: CommanderCast.com! This week Mark and Adam are finishing the spoiler cards for the upcoming coming set Hour of Devastation! After that they go over a quick discussion on Netdecking and finish out on a few cards for team based games … and all you have to do is click the IB!!!

 

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CommanderCast Episode 289

Posted: July 10, 2017

 

Intros:

 

Adam

 

Mark

 

Keep up with the conversation on Facebook

 

 

Community:

 

Last of the Hour of Devastation spoilers

 

 

 

Strategy:  

 

How has EDHREC affected the way you build decks?

  • Sauce for the goose – a good way to check your deck in the final stages of putting a decklist together.
  • Netdecking is a good resource for people who don’t want to build their own deck, or would rather focus on other aspects of the game.

 

 

Technology:

 

Two-Headed Giant tech!

 

Each opponent

 

Teammate

 

Help both of you

 

 

 

Outtro/Contacts:

 

CommanderCast  – Email: commandercast(at)gmail(dot)com // twitter: (at)CommanderCast

 

Rachel – Email: wiehernandez(at)gmail(dot)com // twitter: (at)Blueram1409

 

Calvin – Email: captainredzone(at)gmail(dot)com  // twitter: (at)CaptainRedZone

 

Mark – Email: mahlerma(at)gmail(dot)com

 

Adam – (at)squire9999 // (at)thetrinisphere

 

 

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And a big thanks to everyone here at the CommanderCast Network. We’ll see you next week with more community, strategy, and technology. Until then, LET’S GET IT!

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  • Eshed

    Regarding EDHREC… Most of what I learned from the site is how many players will at least include, and often build around, infinite combos in their decks, and that those combos are a significant factor in which generals get top tier rating. I also am reminded how awful my card evaluation is… (I never thought Trading Post was any good, but Prismatic Lens was my “best” manarock.) I built Anax and Cymede (because someone on this show said it’s a bad commander, and I was like; “challenge accepted”). I finished the entire deck myself, including instants and sorceries to trigger the commander(s?). After a play test, I went on EDHREC to see what other people did with A+C. Turns out, the majority use Auras to try to eke out lasting advantage from a permanent, rather than one-off gains. I adjusted my strategy on that sound principal, but refused to remove my pet cards and personal flavor. I also saw that most players build the deck with weenies, while I leaned (and retained) Voltron. Admittedly, playtesting and EDHREC both confirm A+C isn’t a “good” commander, but I can’t think of a deck I’ve built that I’d rather play when I’m sitting next to my “Emperor” in a 6 player game.

    I browsed Jhoira’s page on EDHREC and saw how many cards people are using that I didn’t own, so I bucked the trend and went mostly Dragon tribal with Dragonstorm and copy spell effects, rather than the Obliteration/Eldrazi most Jhoira decks use.

    Most recently, I finally assembled Marath, Will of the Wild. I included pretty much every EDHREComendation, and filled in the blanks or cut as necessary. Now, I have a good deck which I don’t have much drive at all to play with… (in part because I know it’s going to work the way it’s supposed to, and finding out whether or not my builds are well balanced and functional is fun for me. Also in part because it doesn’t feel like “MY” Marath deck.)

    In summary; EDHREC is a good/bad thing that isn’t for everyone, and can be used in a variety of ways, to varying degrees. Results: Inconclusive. I suspect local metas have slightly homogenized since A: EDHREC, B: Precons. Hooray/Boo.

    • Jeremy Parsons

      EDHRec is a tool. And a really neat one, breaking down all those online decklists? That’s just amazing data mining. And sure you get the ‘average’ deck for a known quantity. But you can also use it to piecemeal obscure strategies. Like when I was trying to tease out some U/B aggressive cards but looking for cards often used with Mardu pieces and generals. You can start with any card and not just a general. Plus it’s just fun to see how few cards your deck has in common with the average version. The other place is where you have your deck say 90-95% there and can’t just think what cards might gel with your deck or the cards in it.

      Trading Post is a Planeswalker in Artifact form. Rather like Jitte is a Planeswalker in equipment form. And my favorite mana and best considered mana rock? Fellwar stone. And I decided that ages before EDH, ages before playing big decks.

      • Eshed

        I decided to take Trading Post for a spin and see what I’d been missing… one went into Purphoros, and “money rained from the sky.” Another went into Chainer, and again, a deluge of value. Thank goodness for CommanderCast, EDHREC, TappedOut, and other places where more experienced players with diverse metas can teach me to play better Magic!

    • Mark Mahler

      That’s a really good point about infinite combos on EDHREC, Eshed. If you browse the stats you’ll come away thinking most players are degenerate trolls and infinite turn junkies, but that never plays out that way in the real.

      • Eshed

        I was confused why so many people included Oblivion Ring… scroll down, there’s Sun Titan, and Reveillark, Fiend Hunter… Oh, that’s why!

        I recently started using the advanced filters, and that’s a big help. Let’s say your Chainer, Dementia Master deck is a non-competitive casual pile, and you want to see what budget options people use over Kokusho, or Rune-Scarred Demon… Try selecting “without” and entering the card names. Now you can see that Gray Merchant and Sidisi, Undead Vizier are the go-to budget replacements. (duh, but it’s just an example) I had fun with Breya, trying to select each and every combo enabler in the deck to add to the “without” list, and see what’s left over. After that excercise, I’ve decided that non-combo Breya lists are only a tiny fraction.

        Probably my favorite use for EDHREC is looking up a card that isn’t a commander, and seeing which commanders include that card. Sometimes it’s surprising. For example, the number one deck BY FAR to include Assault Suit, which gives haste, is a commander that already has haste, and doesn’t directly rely on equipment. Not Feldon, whose tokens equipped with Assault suit can remain on the battlefield, and not Endrek Sahr, who sticks around regardless of how many thrulls you control while he’s equipped with the Suit. I am also surprised to see that so few people try to pair Aurelia with Brago in Jeskai decks. I must be missing something… perhaps it’s just because the best Jeskai commanders don’t need or want either of those cards? Infinite combat steps seem pretty good, right?

  • Kinghonkey

    I use EDHREC to see if I’m missing anything blatantly obvious when I go to build a new deck. I also do take a certain amount of hipster pride when I notice only 30 or so of the cards I chose for a particular general lie inside the statistics. That’s not true for every deck, but I try to stay away from “good stuff” if I can and I’ve been trying to pull away from relying on Sun Titan in every white deck or Demonic Tutor in every black deck in favor of trying something that hasn’t been done to death.

    EDHREC is also a quick visual guide to all of the commanders and maybe allows me to say “Oh yeah, I forgot _that_ was a legendary creature.” The further you travel down that page in popularity, the more interesting the deck building ideas get because, while you’re not breaking any new ground, at least you’re willing to give someone like Brigid, Hero of Kinsbaile a chance, like I did.