CommanderCast S5E3 – Can It All Be So Simple

January 23, 2012

This entry is part 3 of 13 in the series Podcast Season 5

Posted by ANDY aka GHoooSTS
We’re kicking off Olde-Tyme Week here at CommanderCast! Join me in celebrating our first theme week with a sweet olde-tyme jig around the good ol’ phonograph, then settle down (if you can; them jigs get the ticker RACIN’) for another electrifying, educational, and above all HISTORICAL episode of CommanderCast. To help us out in conveying the olde-tyme theme, we’ve gotten the oldest person on the staff. Is it Imshan? Surprisingly no, it’s Old Man Fred, aka Fred Cole aka Mr. Ancient Wisdom. We managed to pull Fred away from his Twitter account THOUGH TIME, back to the days of audio-only media where you gather the fire around the transistor… iPod… and listen in to myself, Donovan, Justin and our special guest with the whole fam.

Show notes and pertinent links below. Enjoy.



SHOW NOTES

00:00 to 04:12: Intro: Does it sound like I’m on OLDE-TYME RRRRRADIOOOO?

COMMUNITY SEGMENTS

04:34 to 20:47: The Reserve List: This is a topic we’ve touched on before but this week we’re going to punch it in the neck. The Reserve List: That’s The Dealie For Realie? How does it influence EDH, and does it provide us with any kind of upside?

21:00 to 37:53: The Good Old Days (Can It All Be So Simple): Our throwback topic is a retrospective on Commander as a whole; our own initial experiences with it and how the format has changed since we started playing it. The influences that shaped us as players, the rules we used when we first started playing, and so on. If you’ve ever wondered about our EDH Origin Stories, then this is your jam.

STRATEGY SEGMENTS

38:11 to 1:00:20: Olde Tyme Strategy: With ld Man Fred on deck, we you we have to discuss old stuff in all capacities. Here we look at the strategic benefits of playing old cards, including Donovan’s brief but awesome guide to cheating using old cards. But most of the stuff here is pretty legit. How do old-school lessons on Magic translate into Commander? What kind of ancient truisms hold up in this ridiculous new environment?

TECHNOLOGY SEGMENTS

1:00:37 to 1:17:33: Retro Cycle Review: We’re doing a true Retro Cycle Review this week as the Elder Dragons from Legends are placed in the scope. Though one clearly stands head and shoulders above the rest, we have a good ol’ throwdown over our ranking of the other four (and there’s even a surprise TWIST ENDING).

Palladia-Mors
Vaevictis Asmadi
Chromium
Arcades Sabboth
Nicol Bolas

Here be our geriatric champions. Which will reign supreme?

Donovan’ Pick Order:

  • Chromium > Nicol Bolas > Vaevictis Asmadi > Palladia-Mors > Arcades Sabboth

Fred’s Picks:

  • Nicol Bolas > Vaevictis Asmadi > Palladia-Mors > Arcades Sabboth > Chromium

Justin’s Pick Order:

  • Nicol Bolas > Arcades Sabboth > Vaevictis Asmadi > Chromium > Palladia-Mors

Andy’s Pick Order:

  • Nicol Bolas > Arcades Sabboth > Chromium > Vaevictis Asmadi > Palladia-Mors

1:17:53 to 1:30:18: Olde Tyme Tech: Fred puts the game on smash with his old-tyme tech. While you’re busy playing with your ‘new’ and ‘appropriately costed’ cards, Fred’s been freezing his bony old ass off in the Ice Age, pulling from it’s barren clutches all kinds of soul-nourishing technology that even grizzled veterans can find use for.

Commons:

Uncommons:

Rares:

OUTTRO

1:30:35 to closing: Outtro: We done did it!

CONTACT INFORMATION

  • Andy: E-Mail: CommanderCast(at)gmail(dot)com // Twitter: (at)CommanderCast
  • Justin:E-Mail: jagteq(at)gmail(dot)com // Twitter: (at)jmiyash
  • Donovan:E-Mail: d0su(at)gmail.com // (at)d0su
  • Fred:E-Mail: zebra.cakes111(at)gmail(dot)com // Twitter: (at)YouDrivePoorly
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15 Comments »
  • http://twitter.com/SwordsToPlow Sean Patchen

    My article will be called Bereshit pronounced “buh-rey-sheet” not “bear-shit”. It’s Hebrew for – In the Beginning. Oy vey!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cassidy-Silver/20003013 Cassidy Silver

      haha i read it as bear shit too

  • http://irememberbanding.tumblr.com Angry Graybeard

    Old school up in this piece!
    I also remember when Carrion Ants got reprinted in 4th edition the price dropped from $20~ to like…$2. No one was really mad though. Even the older players at the time were glad they had a better chance just to USE the Carrion Ants since they were so elusive to find. Much like Killer Bees.

    This was before ‘teh intranetz’!

    Magic needs more Two-Headed Giant of Foriys is all I’m sayin’.

    PS: It’s kind of funny to hear sets like Legends, The Dark, Arabian Nights, etc. be talked about in this really mysterious way. Like, “What is this ancient text on this card. How can I decipher it? Why am I discarding cards from the battlefield? Place a card in the graveyard?” I remember playing with all those like it was a few weeks ago. Getting old sucks =/

    • d0su

      You cannot sacrifice a creature already on its way to the graveyard!

    • d0su

      {B}:Regenerates

    • d0su

      You can go with this:
      {T}, Sacrifice an artifact: Add to your mana pool an amount of {B} equal to the sacrificed artifact’s converted mana cost.

      Or you can go with that:
      Tap to add an amount of black mana equal to target artifact’s casting cost to your mana pool. This effect is played as an interrupt. Target artifact, which must belong to you, is discarded. This artifact cannot be one that is already on its way to the graveyard, and artifact creatures sent to the graveyard this way cannot be regenerated.

  • Anonymous

    ohshi oldmanfred

  • http://twitter.com/GuDoug Judson Gruber

    SOUL KISS I have been tried to convince people that it is good in Skithiryx but no one listens to me. Whatever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=581761807 Travis Miyashiro

    Though we house-ruled life totals to 40 when we played with 2 players after like 1 game of each of us at 100 life and realizing that Generals were the only ways in our deck to legitimately win.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cassidy-Silver/20003013 Cassidy Silver

    MY MAN FRED KICKING SOME ASS! Fred’s books are really good, go pick um up already!

  • http://twitter.com/GuDoug Judson Gruber

    In response to Old Man Fred’s “Use a Chip” I enjoy the Legends card Quarum Trench Gnomes that says “Use Counters” and doesn’t specifically say for what.

  • Anonymous

    Vaevictus was always my favorite back in the days when mana burn was a concern; I could pay for his upkeep while a Mana Flare was in play and never have to worry about getting burned.

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  • nic

    I am totally building a Chromium deck now. Magebane Armor, Nemesis mask, Basilisk Collar, and Loxodon Warhammer make Voltr… I mean Mecha-Godzilla’s (of course I bought a Japanese chronicles version) rampage totally relevant.

  • http://www.facebook.com/owen.mckenzie Owen McKenzie

    I had one (one!) copy of (chronicles) Chromium, and being the 14 year old that I was, would have jammed the full 4 if I had them. But I didn’t, or any other good cards either. I had to make due with budget cards, like black knight, swords, hymn, hyppie, counterspell and brainstorm. I even had to trade my Shivan dragon for a badlands and underground sea, but Chromium was worth it. Ironically, I remember playing Souls Kiss. In that deck even? maybe…