This entry is part 21 of 538 in the series CommanderCast
Posted by ANDY aka GHoooSTS

Better late than DEAD!

This week Andy, Jeremiah and Carlos are bursting through your speakers and into your ears with the latest edition of CommanderCast. Joining us, we have a guest; Neale of WrongWayGoBack, acclaimed Commander blogger, Aussie living in Hong Kong, and the ONLY guest who swears more than me. This episode is a bit more… uh… ‘unbuttoned’ than usual, so be advised, there’s a bit of strong language up in here.

As a reminder in case you read the show noes and don’t listen to the podcast (YOU ARE A WEIRDO), we’re running our Season 2 Contest right now! Be sure to check out the rules and submit YOUR Secret Tech for the chance to win our superb, fully-decided-upon prize; a custom art card from Derfington (check him out doing his thug thizzle on ManaDeprived)!
Also, remember to vote on the next restriction for Carlos’ DECKBUILDING CHALLENGE! Last restriction decided on was a $40 budget; now, we’re working out the colours. Vote for 5C, tri-, bi-, or mono-coloured this week in the poll in the upper-left corner!

Show notes and links below. Enjoy.


00:00 to 02:42: Intro: We are introducing ourselves, providing a bit of a preview to the Mid-Week Update, and a reminder about the contest.

02:52 to 05:18: Community Spotlight: WrongWayGoBack: Neale is on the show and he’s going to talk about his website. This makes too much sense y/n

05:29 to 24:24Community: LOL INTERNET vs In The Real: As internet play of Commander blossoms, we see a difference between play ‘in the real’ and online, and even differences between play on MtGO, Cockatrice, and Magic Workstation. How does online play differ from kitchen tables? What influence does the online player base exert on the format as a whole? All this and more in a very broad-ranging discussion.

24:40 to 25:28: Deckbuilding Challenge: Phase 2: In the first phase Carlos’ Deckbuilding Challenge, the votes have spoken; the $40 restriction is now in full effect. This week (and this week only), you vote on the colour setup: 5C, tri-, bi-, or mono-coloured? Check the poll in the upper-left corner. Next week, we’ll figure out the actual colours!

25:43 to 39:07: Strategy: Hated Out: Mass Land Destruction: It’s been a while since we turned on our Hatervision goggles. This time, they’re actually used defensively, talking about Mass Land Destruction. The most hated strategy in EDH? Possibly. But how warranted is this? What is the value of Mass LD as a strategy, and when should it be deployed? What are the good reasons to hate it, and what might warrant reconsideration?

39:23 to 56:00: Strategy: Archetype Rundown: Group Hug: Hatervision googles deactivated: Hug Mode ENGAGED (Jeremiah forgot to turn the goggles off). Neale and I both play ‘Group Hug’ decks quite a bit, which benefit opponents, play politics, and try to navigate the mass of resources you’ve given to your opponents to come out on top. How do you play one of these decks, and why? What are the pitfalls?

56:14 to 72:53: Technology: Retro Cycle Review: We’re reviewing the Kamigawa dragon cycle, best to worst. Cards below, then our rankings.

Jugan, the Rising Star; Keiga, the Tide Star; Kukosho, the Evening Star; Ryusei, the Morning Star; Yosei, the Morning Star.

Andy’s Picks: Yosei, Kukosho, Ryusei, Keiga, Jugan
Jeremiah’s Picks: Yosei, Kukosho, Keiga, Ryusei, Jugan
Neale’s Picks: Keiga, Kokusho, Yosei, Ryusei, Jugan
Carlos’ Picks: Yosei, Keiga, Kukosho, Ryusei, Jugan

God why is Jugan so bad

73:08 to 81:40: Secret Tech: Neale Edition: I hope you like THICK Aussie accents and swearing. If so, you’re in for a treat. The cards are pretty cool too.

Common: Night Soil, Furious Assault, Obulette
Uncommon: Inheritance, Defensive Formation, Arboria
Rare: Earnest Fellowship, Celestial Convergence, Dual Nature

81:55 to closing: Outtro.


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  • To Contact Neale: Follow this link
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